Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Horizon Technologies (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. While notability is permanent, our standards for inclusion can change as can consensus. There is a consensus in this discussion that under the current NCORP standards that there is not sufficient sourcing available to justify an independent article. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:36, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Horizon Technologies[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:NCORP, WP:INDEPENDENT, WP:MULTSOURCES and WP:CORPDEPTH. It's abandoned and I think it won't get more cited or improved. Asketbouncer (talk) 11:43, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 12:08, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 12:08, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The article says it all: "Defunct" Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:19, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Once notable, always notable. I restored a paragraph about the prosecution for fraud of two people related to the company. Now that the paragraph and its references have been restored, notability is clear. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 02:40, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 02:41, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It is well sourced and interesting. Obviously, simply because a company has ceased to exist does not make it insignificant. Westinghouse Electric Corporation, Studebaker, DeLorean Motor Company, etc., etc., are companies that have ceased to exist. Just a difference in degree is insufficient to make something completely not notable. The criminality has added to noteworthiness. Jay Jor (talk) 11:53, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. When compared to the previous discussion about deleting this article, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Horizon Technologies, nothing really new has been added to a detailed discussion of the issue. The first time this article was nominated for deletion, a consensus was reached to keep the article. With changes as recent as 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, etc., it had not been abandoned. Even if it had, an article ceasing to change does not make it go from being notable to not being notable. Jay Jor (talk) 11:53, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Even with the newly discovered news, none of them are in-depth. A company "known for one thing" is not notable.Webmaster862 (talk) 08:40, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:03, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete WP:NCORP requires multiple sources (at least two) of deep or significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. That means, nothing that relies on company information or announcements or interviews, etc. In addition, none of the article references the fraud and subsequent convictions provides in-depth information on the company with Independent Content. In summary, not a single one of the references in the article meet the criteria. Topic fails WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 15:43, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.